On April 29th, 2022 I summoned Azreal and interviewed him. My wife acted as medium. As always I want to remind people that the spirit is speaking through my wife and that means Azreal has to work with what is already in her mind which is why he may use phrases similar to what she uses.
Jareth Tempest: Are you here Azreal?
JT: We would like to ask you some questions is that okay?
JT: Well, first, I want to thank you for this time and for speaking with us and we would like to talk about the soul and what makes up the soul, the different parts of the soul, and what happens to them when we die. And so, is it true that the soul has multiple parts?
JT: I know that many cultures have different models. Kind of what the soul is, and how the different parts work. Which is more accurate, the Egyptian model or the Kabbalist?
JT: So, how many parts does the soul have?
A: When a new soul comes into creation, they come with two parts, and there’s a seed. And as they make their choices, that nurtures the seed to grow. And this seed passes on when the being dies, it is the essence of the individual. There’s a part of the soul that goes into the ground that nurtures the earth. (Long pause.) What happens to the other part of the soul is complicated.
JT: Is this the part that goes to the ancestors?
A: This is the part that goes to the ancestors or to a version of heaven for a time. People often have preconceived notions of what the afterlife will be like. And for some, that belief is so strong that it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. So they experience the heaven they expect to. Generally, after a while, they realize that there’s so much more. And as when they joined the ancestors, when they are ready, they become one with the reality of the universe.
JT: You said that there are many heavens and I know that whenever a soul might come to this in an unhealthy state or a state of resistance or something, are there then maybe purgatories for people like that?
A: There are.
JT: And what about like hells? Places of punishment for the wicked?
A: It’s not about, it’s not about punishment, it’s about purification. It’s about someone seeing a higher truth. Someone having a fundamental realization about themselves, whatever it is that wakes them up and makes them realize where the connection to the divine lays.
JT: So there’s not like a place of eternal torment, even the hells are really more of a purgatory, a place of purification, and healing?
A: Yes. There’s, there’s no, there’s, I shouldn’t say, never, because the universe is infinite and strange. But the idea of eternal torment… and nothing lasts forever. Not even me. Everything ends eventually.
JT: So you talked about “the seed.” Is this the higher self?
JT: And this is something that an individual grows, it’s a part of themselves then that will, that can, grow and then moves on to another life and continues to grow in that life and so on?
A: And so on and so forth.Correct.
JT: And so what does it retain from its previous lives?
A: When it is in-between lives, it retains all memory. When it is in a life, it does not. But it does retain an intuitive wisdom. The more in touch you are, the more true to yourself that you are, the more in touch with your higher self, you will be.
JT: So does our knowledge of magic carryover.
A: It does in an intuitive sense. You will find it much easier to relearn. You don’t, you’re, you’re not born with the sigils, and knowledge of all things at your fingertips, but it’s still, it’s much easier for you to remember?
JT: What about other forms of knowledge? Like if we were a scientist in our last life, or a martial artist?
A: Yes, that’s why people have talents, skills in different areas. That’s something that happens frequently. Even news souls can be extraordinary. But yes, you will find it easier to pick up on things that you have already experienced, and you will excel in those fields and endeavors.
JT: There are several magical methods that claim to help people complete the reincarnation cycle. I just want to list them. And if you could tell me if they would work or not, does that make sense?
A: We can try.
JT: Okay, the Egyptian Book of Gates.
A: Yes, that’s a valid path.
JT: All right, thank you. Ashati?
A: Yes. Also, it takes… it must be a conscious goal and it’s strived for. But yes.
JT: There’s a method they call the body of light, where you build a body of light and then you use that to escape in.
A: There are no shortcuts. No.
JT: So becoming an ascended master.
JT: Or a saint?
A: Yes, absolutely. There’s… so the essence of what we’re talking is escaping the circle, correct?
A: There are many ways to do it, whatever it takes for you to realize. It’s… The idea is for you, as you make your choices, as you become the person you’re going to be, as that passes from life to life, the goal is to become… I know that we keep using this phrase, I hope it makes sense, t’s the one from her head that most fits, but to become the most you that you are. To have complete self-knowledge and self-expression. To put yourself out into the world as yourself, and then you just have just to acknowledge the circle to make the decision. It’s easy. You just have to know to ask.
JT: Josephine McCarthy has said what you just said and that you can just ask at that point and you’ll face a form of judgment. Is that true?
A: In a sense? Judgment implies punishment and that there’s something that’s right or wrong. It’s a lesson. It’s more of an assessment than a judgment. You are looked over, your choices, your life, your essence. And then you request what comes next. Once you leave reincarnation that’s not the end of you unless you want it to be. One of the options is to be completely reabsorbed into the infinite, but there are other options as well. And the assessment will decide how that works out.
JT: That was my next question, what happens after we complete that cycle? What comes next?
A: As I said, many options, and it’s often as individual as individuals are. Some stay to help. Some create their own… she’s thinking pocket dimension, but that’s not exactly it, but it’s close enough. Once you’ve asked to end the reincarnation cycle, you should know yourself well enough to know what you want to do next, and then you ask, and you are assessed, and the outcomes determined, and then you go do that thing.
JT: You mentioned, absorbed back into the universe, would that be apotheosis, where you become one with God?
JT: I want to return back to those that die that are still unwell. Do they carry their flaws, and their addictions with them?
A: Yes they continue to be stuck
JT: And they can make life more difficult for their descendants?
JT: When we return to our ancestors, do we still have like a life? Do we do things? Is there work?
A: I’m sorry, but it’s a state of being that’s impossible to describe. You don’t… There’s not really a passage of time. It’s almost as if all time is one time, but not entirely. The part that joins the ancestors, is not a part of the soul that carries a lot of personality. That part of the soul is going to go and… And if you want to keep your individuality a part of you can still join the ancestors and help, but the more the individual lesson, that you can help in more direct ways.
JT: So the souls that we tend to deal with as magicians or mediums and whatnot, tend to be souls that have less of their personality, and what is it like more emotional?
A: So it’s almost like a computer that goes into sleeping mode. It doesn’t take much to reawaken that then and then you can converse and interact. But they don’t just hang out, waiting for, you know, watching the world pass them by. But when called upon, they can return their individuality, if the medium is strong enough. Or if it is someone like Jesus, who has ascended beyond and chose to remain, and interact, and take an act of participation, but those are exceptional.
JT: So, speaking of Jesus, is the resurrection an actual historical event. Did he physically come back from the dead?
JT: Alright back to ghosts. As humans, sometimes we run into spirits that seem to be stuck in locations. Are those always a human part of a human soul, or are those maybe thought-forms, or echos?
A: Yes. There are thought-forms. There are echoes. Those are more common than an actual entity. Even ghosts aren’t the entirety of the soul. But when something happens that fragments a soul so sharply and severely that it leaves a portion of itself behind that becomes a more active ghost. But events leave impressions on a place. You have echos in the psychic repeats.
JT: Okay. So what happens when we die as far as how does the experience happen. Our body stops working. What happens then?
A: That depends. A lot of it depends on where the soul is in its cycle. If you’re a brand new soul, you tend to… some souls reincarnate more quickly than others. Some take a very long time before they incarnate again. There’s sort of a limbo where you reflect on your life, and you make your decisions about the next one. And how highly evolved your higher self is helps a lot with guiding the direction of what that will be.
JT: But like when we die, are you there? Or are our family members. Is there any kind of a guide that takes us? Or is it just something that we just know what to do?
A: Of course there is a guide there, there is a family of spirits that have watched over you. There are many options for that. There’s sort of a waiting room you to before you go to the next thing and sometimes you’re in that waiting room for a little while sometimes for a long time. Yes, family and friends and it is a place for reflection and decision making. Do we have much longer?
JT: No, I am done with my questions actually, so I would just like to thank you. And we would just want to say that we have enjoyed, my wife and I enjoy working with you, and hope to continue to do so and the future.
A: It is good to heal the dead.
JT: Oh, one last question then before we go. Are we doing it right? The way we heal the dead?
A: There are many, many right ways. But yes.
JT: What we do does work, and it does help.
A: Yes, even the actions… the care you take for your dead helps.These (states something personal, but mundane, my wife is doing for her ancestors) that time, that attention, that relating to that, it all heals. It doesn’t have to just be ritual if it can be just acts of service and devotion and love to the lineage.
JT: So tending people’s graves.
A: Yes. Yes. Very much.
JT: Keeping pictures and just certain, you know,remembering and telling their stories.
JT: All right. Well, thank you very much Azrael. I give you license to depart. Going in peace.